An old friend of Yayasan Laut Lestari Indonesia and a leader on Corporate Social Responsibility in Indonesia, he agreed to meet with Elshinta and Bill to discuss how he could help YLLI get back to action. While pessimistic of the possibility for true Corporate Social Responsibility from the majority of Indonesian corporations, he suggested he could introduce us to a variety of people, including the deputy Ambassador at the Australian Embassy, we agreed and would follow-up when the webpage and e-brochure was up to speed.